One Night in Bangkok (Meet #5)

a homage to the live sex show going on at the table next to us at admaker’s last night. well, not so much a sex show as we wanted it to be, entertaining nonetheless.

the amount of face sucking going on last night did not compare to the total radness of old little ladies and fabulously flambouyant young men coming out to dance to knit-wear 80s contemporary rock.

an awesome turnout last night, pikk, a new participant – nune and myself arrive first, shortly followed by oak before we devoured a totally sick meal that makes living in thailand so wonderful – salted crab and papaya salad, deep fried cotton fish and mango salad, chicken tendons balled in fermented sausages, thin white noodles stir fried in bacon and salted egg and grilled pork in basil.

holla!

nune had to leave early, and remained an enigma to jay and tee who joined us later bypassing dinner and diving right into drinks, but i do insist that she exists! after a few drinks, my boss from hakuhodo, ito-san, joined us for a few rounds and marveled everybody with his language and amazing grasp of thai cultural skills.

it was highly exciting to have a semi-mature conversation on sanitary napkins with the boys including the most bizzare new category that’s not so much tampons, but more like the prelude to it… i suppose an answer to the asian market’s affinity of women not willing to insert anything (ie. tampons) .

sofy body piece

so it’s a cross between a pad and a tampon, you don’t insert it all the way in, and you don’t stick it onto your panties, but rather you put it between your outer labia(s?).

i think we had as much fun talking about it as making semi-obscene gestures…when viewed out of context.

i’m sure we talked a lot more beyond that but this really stood out even after an attack of the vodka tonics and whiskey sours.

excellent.

p.s. i forgot my camera, but oakie too some pix from last night. i’m sure he’ll post them up later.

The John Grant Manifesto

I am reading the brand innovation manifesto book at the moment. The book is great and charming. Blissfully thanks to John Grant of Brand Tarot blog for doing a small Q&A session for me. Let’s get to the point.

The brand innovation manifesto book

1.What are the inspirations behind writing “The brand innovation
manifesto”?

It wasnt based upon any one insight or revelation. It’s a continuation
of the ‘New marketing’ project. But I felt that since my previous two
books the selection of supporting case studies had got richer, the
principles a little clearer. Mostly I wanted to write a useful book,
something fellow practitioners could dip into and use as they work. For
selfish reasons it is useful to me to have something current to share
with clients, conference audiences, readers of articles – to keep my
own brand up to date.

2.What have you learned after writing this brilliant book?

Thank you for saying it is brilliant. I prefer to think it is ‘not bad’
and save my perfectionism for the next venture 🙂

In the last year since the book I have learned a lot. Principally from
all the ‘2.0’ developments. Plus the green and sustainability (and
possibly spiritual dimensions) of branding are a current fascination,
and not just for me. I already have in mind a next book – centred on
the brand enthusiasm theory which I have been developing on my blog –
but I need to find a spare slot to write it and there is no time
pressure, so maybe I will wait a while and let the thoughts develop.

3.Would you elaborate this quote, Only liars need to be consistent, in
your book?

That quote was originally in a ‘not a brand book’ I developed for IKEA
ten years ago. They had a task force looking at the possibility of
developing a global brand bible. I argued quite strongly against this;
they are one of the few brands with a free inventiveness, falling back
upon some core company values rather than struggling to maintain a
facade of consistent brand expressions. Also they are a retailer; their
job is to cut costs, not build false brand price premiums. The line was
originally placed next to a photo of Richard Nixon. The point is
obvious; if you are true to yourself, you dont need false executional
constraints, acting like a mask. It’s about being authentic, also
relating to a point I made in my first book that a strong brand is an
author; their works can be diverse, but people still join up the dots.
I greatly admire Nike in that respect.

4.What would you say to a marketer who still adheres to the brand image
approach?

Good luck!

Seriously though it is all about doing what is right for your business,
market, brand. Perfumes are bought on image, as is fashion, probably
most drinks too. But even in image markets another position
differentiates you; for instance Benetton’s (former) emphasis on
politics. My view is really a corrective to the idea that everything
needs to be advertised like a perfume; a view which dominated
advertising and marketing since the 50s. The other question is
authenticity; people have higher standards and are more sceptical. In
many FMCG markets bad products hid behind glossy image advertising.
Today many of these are getting found out. It’s not just that they need
to change their ad strategy though. They need an idea to differentiate
themselves. One of the central themes of the book is that brand and
innovation today are very nearly the same thing. I developed the idea
of a molecule to show how successive innovations, both in product and
marketing build to create a compelling overall story.

5.What is your favourite brand of 2006? and why?

My personal favourite was (RED). Such a simple idea. But so smart. It
is predicated on the idea of making other brands look good. Plus I am
glad to have another example of consumer marketing which is doing a bit
of good and not too much harm. The individual (RED) campaigns are great
too. I think my favourite was UK newspaper The Independent who did a
whole (RED) issue. If anyone isnt familiar check this:
http://www.joinred.com/

6.What is your favourite future of branding?

My current expression of where things seem to be heading is marketing
enthusiasm. A company engages its customers by finding a broader
enthusiasm to share with them. Pampers and immunising babies in the
developing world. Nike and its city runs (Run London). The inNYC amex
card that connects with a network of venues in New York, enhancing your
chances of booking somewhere nice and having a decent social life. Lego
Factory
and its Ambassador programme. Innocent’s Fruitstock festival.
Many current internet successes are built upon shared enthusiasms:
ebay, YouTube, blogging, Wikipedia, and Amazon, which functions as a
massive book club.

The marketing enthusiasm initiatives are often strongly branded in the
sense of having catchy names and an identity. But they are third space
brands; satellites of the original trademark. They are not based upon
communicating a brand promise, they are about doing something together,
building a relationship. With increasing possibilities to have a rich
dialogue with customers (via the internet and other means) I imagine
that relationship will increasingly be the central term in planning
rather than ‘target audience’. Brands yesterday were like the Woody
Allen quote: “enough about me, what did you think of my movie?” – their
urge to brand and control every facet and frankly a tendency to brand
narcissism left little room for involvement.

7.You got 3 sentences, what would you say to our readers about “The
brand innovation manifesto” book?

It has some interesting current brand theory. It contains over 200
reasonably current international case studies. It is designed to help
you develop good ideas.

I think you can find this book at Asiabooks store, Bangkok or order it via Amazon.

Oakie 🙂

FREE Future of Branding Seminar

WHEN: Friday Feb 2, 13.00 – 17.00

WHERE: Room 307, Pinit Prachanart Building, Chulalongkorn University,

Seminar Speakers:

1. K. Vitavas, CEO of G1 Creative Juice and President of Ad Asso
Topic-Future of Brands in Advertising Perspective

2. K. Sirikul, CEO of Brand Being (Brand Consultancy)
Topic-Future of Brands in Brand Builder Perspective

3. K. Thana, Vice President of Client Servicing of DTAC
Topic-Future of Brands in Marketing Perspective

More info (in Thai): http://www.futureofbranding-seminar.com/

thanks jay for the heads-up!

ของดี nite

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image by oak

we’re progressing excellently as a group. getting along extremely well.

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unlimited popcorn as promised

oak was the first to arrive at shades, i soon followed, then pikk arrived a little bit past eight. we spent the first part of the evening discussing our experiences with certain agencies and sharing corporate/agency culture shocks. with the industry being mainly contained within central bangkok, the social circle is relatively small and more often than not we tend to end up sharing colleagues at one time or another…or at least hear urban tales about certain characters.

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oak and pikk sharing adventure/war stories

when tee+ arrived, he was bombarded with job description questions, on who did what task which then somehow transformed into conversations about car dealerships, second hand car markets, and a family well-known for selling cars and their gift for music.

as soon as jay arrived, we kicked off our ของดี nite–“ของดี” or kong dee (good stuff) is an all encompassing way to describe our weekly meetings. very relaxed, very chilled, and sporadic fits of laughter accompanied our blurry vision.

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sometime after midnight, and after a few minutes of eye rest *ahem jay*, we ended a 4-something hour evening coffee in bangkok.

excellente’

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third one’s a charm

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Friday, 19 Jan 2007
image by oak

it took only two meetings to conclude that our talks should include alcohol, thus arranging our third meeting at a laidback retro furniture slash coffee slash new york style cocktail bar called ‘shades of retro’.

people present: oak, tee+, jay, pikk and myself.

amazingly enough everybody was able to ward off friday rush hour traffic and arrived on time. the evening started off ordering from the extensive list of cocktails–where half seems to be the bastardisation of the ‘long island’ cocktail. when asked what a certain cocktail was made up of, the barman would always start his answers with ‘it’s like a long island except there’s ~fill-in-replacement-ingredient-here~ in it.’

conversations ranged from discussing experiences with research agencies, discussing certain clients that we shared, how to answer clients when they ask for ‘new media’ and what we could do to revamp/rejuvenate swatch. mixed among those topics also included conversations about art direction, the non existant sex education courses in thai schools, and about thai men and pr clubs slash lounges slash excuse my french… whorehouses.

dinner came about after realising there’s no food served at the bar, and our stomach linings were quivering from the gastric acids that were starting to burn ulcers in them. our remedy was from the pizzanotti delivery service, we opted for the buy 2 get 1 free deal, at first fretted we weren’t going to be able to finish all three trays, but glad to find that we worried for nothing.

the evening ended with agreement that the next meeting will also be held at shades, but not before turning the sugar packet holder into a pizza condiment holder.

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oak and pikk

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jay

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tee+

thai’ing it up: a recap of first two ‘coffee meets’

it’s an incredibly exciting and utterly fantastic feeling to find out that hey! you’re not the only local person reading demi-god slash planning guru russell davies’s website. upon coming across a lonely email in my ultra new gmail account from another thai reader of russell’s site was born the bangkok version of coffee morning .

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image by oak

the first one ever was held at coffee world on nana and was attended by three planners: myself, pikk and oak. it was scheduled at an insane 8am, we quickly localised the idea of coffee morning, and changed it to “something like coffee morning, but let’s do it over dinner”. oak summarised it here.

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image by oak

the second meeting was held at the food loft in central chidlom and had a record (so far) number of turnouts. again there was myself, pikk and oak with the addition of two dentsu planners: tee+ and jay, and a qualitative researcher–aon. the great thing about all the attendees is that we’re all about the same age and in similar stages of our careers and not too seasoned in planning yet. we also came to a conclusion that the idea of “coffee morning”… well the idea of “anything morning” isn’t well-suited for us thais and agreed to meet in the evenings after work. oak summarised the second meeting inclusive of pictures here.

somehow when we scheduled the third meeting, we forgot about dinner and decided just to have evening drinks instead at a fantastic bar slash furniture store called shades of retro.

i like that. straight to the point. we do have the third highest drinking rate in asia behind japan and korea.

represent.